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By : CardDragonBall

From ANON - Hecate18 on April 08, 2004
�worewore that if it laughed at him he was going to rip its antennas off and fry them in butter like frog legs. Then he would feed them back to the Namekian. While he GRINNED in AMUSEMENT.� � that�s one way to deal with your problems! ^_^

I think Vegeta�s so sweet, He loves him�awww

�Because he loved all of them. Loved this world. And he loved Vegeta, and he would fight for all of it. Not even their hate could change that.� � that was so� beautiful *sniffs*

I really really hate Gohan, Goku should have let Vegeta carry on beating him. Stupid brat!
All of them acting like children; they don�t seem to mind Vegeta when he�s helping defend the planet!

I for one don�t mind you going homicidal and killing Gohan and Tien� really I don�t mind. ^-^

Looking forward to next chapter! ^_^

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From ANON - Getarian on April 08, 2004
Really loved the scene at the beginning, with Vegeta and Trunks. Trunks was so funny in a, 'distressed' sort of way :-)

Loved how Vegeta didn't even have to say a word, yet Trunks continued on as if he had, and when Vegeta finally did respond, I'll bet Trunks wish that he hadn't. His reaction to Vegeta's suggestion that he, do something about his 'problem', was really funny, in a 'I feel sorry for the poor guy' kind of way. Really love Vegeta's, father and son, talks :-D

"Now he just had to endure her endless smirk every time he showed up at Capsule Corp. Because he had done the unthinkabnd cnd confessed his uke status to her."

Ahh, Wonderful Vegeta. He was so sweet to tell her this rather personal thing. I don't exactly know why, but I wouldn't mind betting, that he did this to help ease her pain at him leaving her. She would now know that it wasn't because he was unsatisfied with her as a partner so much, as he needed something else, something she couldn't give him, something that was all part and parcel of being uke, and not just the incredible sex - although that is a huge plus. :-) She would also now be aware of the fact that he was truly in love with Kakarot, to surrender to him this way, and he didn't just leave her on a whim. :-)

Naughty Bulma has had her fun, now she should stop smirking at the poor guy. *chuckle*

I am glad that Vegeta and Bulma are on good terms again :-)

"...That twerp was not good enough for her, and he wasn�t about to allow her to settle for someone that was familiar because she was afraid she might have lost her appeal."

Yay Vegeta! Dead right too! Yamcha's days with Bulma are past, she needs to find someone who will fit her so much better. I love the idea of Vegeta still being her protector :-)

Loved the scene with Goku and Vegeta, when Goku came home and asked Vegeta what was going on with Goten and Trunks. Love that Vegeta knows Goku so well, that he usually knows the right way to deal with him, and love the fact that Goku can upset that firm belief:

"Hn. Perhaps it was time to rethink this strategy."

LOL! Well done...I loved this :-) A partner should never know their mate that well, otherwise...booooring :-)

"...Which was fine, because if Kakarot didn�t tell him today, Trunks would fess it up tomorrow. Neither one of them were particularly skilled at keeping things a secret."

LOL! Loved this too!

I'm pleased to see that Piccolo has decided to stop being a complete arse :-)

�Dad,� he sa�Why�Why the hell is Trunks trying to molest me every time we fight?�

LOL! Not the question to ask Goku :-D

"...and could only stare at his child like it had grown a fifth head. Reply, eloquently: �Huh?�"

ROTFL!

Damn, that whole scene with Goten and Goku was extremely funny...if I kept up highlighting I was have just ended up cutting and pasting the whole thing...loved it :-D

"Vegeta rolled his eyes and said: �You need to go take a shower. You smell.� Polite as ever."

LOL! Ah, the fine art of diplomacy. :-)

"...Dying evening light spilling in through the windows and silhouetting him in the dusky shadows. The scene was painfully beautiful."

Such a moment...Goku has such a romantic heart :-)

"Vegeta turned, looked at him, sniffed and said: �You smell much better now.�"

LOL! Hey, err, this could be...err, romantic too...on Vegetasei *cough*

Wonderful lemon!

"I don�t think that counts as an incomplete lemon."

Hell no! That was absolutely incredible. As hot as ever. :-)

Looking forward to the next chapter :-)

ROTFL! Loved the end dialogue :-D

"...About the posting, just close your eyes and hit the button. Or give the story to someone and let them gush about how good it is, then you�ll have more confidence."

Thanks for this :-) I'm the only one I know who reads yaoi, so I'm going to have to go with option A...pretty much what I did when I posted the 'Balcony scene' - typed it in, let my finger hover over the review button and just waited until I hit that 'what the hell' moment, and just pressed :-)

"I don�t see the purpose of really putting down a character. (Especially since its funnier to do it with humor.)"

Totally agree :-) Making them the bad guy is one thing, can be fun even, and it's good to be able to explore other possible aspects of a character's personality, tweak with them, sort of thing, give them faults...as you may have noticed in the case of your Gohan, it can give good results :-D ...but hateful bashing, I agree...that's a definite no-no. Probably why I'll neveve Tve Tien in any of my fics, otherwise I would be way too tempted to put in snide comments, without any real purpose.

"Nope! No mind reading! Just something that Piccolo realized� (intentionally trying to be vague here.)"

And doing a damn good job of it too :-)

"Oh, the �Like my brother!� outburst...."

Ah! Thanks, it now makes sense. Armed with this new-found knowledge I went back and re-read the scene and completely cracked up at Vegeta's response, and Trunks' reaction...Vegeta can be a real bastard sometimes...LOL!

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From ANON - macha on April 07, 2004
I think that I could read an A/U where sayians have sex everyday, maybe evey two or three times a day, and never get tired of it.

That said, I like the little bit of angst that was in the begining of this fic, and the plot twists that have occured through out it. Keep up the good work.

(Update soon please)
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From ANON - jaygoose on April 07, 2004
Yeah, my Gohan is definitely being an ass. But don�t worry, soon he�ll team up with someone who will make him a bigger ass!- Oh dear God NO!

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From ANON - Hecate18 on April 07, 2004
�Why the hell is Trunks trying to molest me every time we fight?� - that has to be like the funniest line ever! ROTFL
And I very much liked Goku's reply, which consisted of an 'Ok' ^-^

I liked the blunt 'You need to go take a shower. You sme' - ' - So polite.
And the lemon scene was... yum! But should already know by now that I always enjoy reading you 'descriptive' lemony scenes. ^_~

'Persnickty' - ?!? Of all the words to use! LOL
But then again I always giggle, (yes giggle!) When I hear the word 'Bottom'. O_o

Looking forward to the next chap,'t 't wait to see how Trunks and Goten deal with their 'predicament'. Also now I am desperately trying to figure out what Piccolo knows... ^_^

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From ANON - Mechanical Butterfly on April 07, 2004
OMG!!!!!!!!!! i loved this chaapter! I swear I want to kill Gohan!!! -_-

He makes me so mad!!!H!
H!

As long as he wasn�t expected to bring potato salad to the idiot-barbeques, he was fine. --LoL love that he is fine with everything else.

Looked straight ahead of him, did not even spare Vegeta a glance.--*shakes head* Piccolo, like Vegeta even wants you to look at his lusicous body... I still can't believe him...I think he has been hanging out with Gohan way too much.

�I knew you would destroy my family.�--OH KAY!!! Whatever Gohan, the only one who seems to be destroying his family is HIM!!!!ase!ase! He is so LAME!!! GAH! I can't believe how upset I am getting. *counts to 10* Ahhh...and that is why I love this fic. I love it!!!!!

Gk: On the couch if you�re going to be an asshole.--LoL awww poor Vegeta...that is so cute. I loved those little end notes.

Well thank you for another wonderful emotiilleilled chap.
It seems so hard for Veggie and Goku to be a couple, it makes me sad. It made me sad at the end of this chap when Goku says maybe he shouldn't be w/ Vegeta but then he says no he wants to be with him. I hate that he even had to think that. I hate that everyone is putting them though this. But I totally loved when Goku said he wont choose b/c they is nothing to choose! He is right! *hugs Goku* He is awesome!

Oh and I hope all is going well w/ your new job!

^.*
-MB-

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From ANON - Getarian on April 07, 2004
Really loved the opening scenes. Vegeta's inner thoughts are always a treat:

"As long as he wasn�t expected to bring potato salad to the idiot-barbeques, he was fine."
LOL!

Loved the way he handled Piccolo, loved that he didn't feel the need to answer Piccolo's question, and even when pushed he still didn't...loved this response:

"Vegeta sneered. �Do you really have so little faith in him as that?�"

Perfect! Goku is a fully grown man, he doesn't need babysitting. :-)

"This made it think, apparently, because it was still for a moment, and thoughtful�thinking green little thoughts, no doubt."

*chuckle* like I said, love Vegeta's inner thoughts :-)

"That he had stood at their smelly, undersized, bald and green sides and protecteds ids idiot magnet."

LOL! Love his description of the Earth :-D

Totally agreed with Vegeta's thoughts about the other's attitude when it came to him and his son helping them in times of trouble, and their attiude to him in times of peace.

"�Good,� the green thing said. Looked at him, and gave him an odd look. Something like humor, like he was amused by Pri Prince."

Wha? Did Piccolo read Vegeta's mind when he was thinking those thoughts?

"�Oh,� Trunks still had that offended look on his face,"

LOL! Poor Trunks, he has always been a bit on the refined side...he should hang out with his dad a bit more :-)

"To stop them, because whatever they thought was important enough to fight over wasn�t more important than the fact that they were brothers, and brothers should not fight one another."

Totally agree!

"Vegeta saw this, because he had a triumphant little smirk on his face."

Vegeta, on the other hand, does not. LOL!

"Watched Gohan shake off the touch, wipe at his arms where his father�s hands had been and shudder." �Don�t touch me,� he said, �Not when you�re with that.�

Really don't like Gohan. Goku should have kicked his arse for this!

�I knew you would destroy my family.�

Amazing! The only one causing a rift is Gohan as far as I can see.

Again, I loved Vegeta's response...pure class :-)

"Wondered if he was becoming a bad person, because he just stood and watched his child leave him,..."

Poor Goku. I hate that Gohan has got him questioning himself like this.

"�Like my brother!� Trunks said, looked at his father like this outburst pertained to anything."

Huh?

Loved the end part with Vegeta and Goku. Very touching :-)

Looking forward to the next chapter.

Loved the end dialogue :-D

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From ANON - jaygoose on April 06, 2004
I thought that that fight between Goten and Gohan was bound to happen. And the way that Vegeta handled Piccolo was hilarious. I feel bad for Goku though...Gohan is an ass.
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From ANON - Hecate18 on April 06, 2004
I had a feeling Piccolo read Vegeta's mind... Did he??? ^-^
I thought it was really funny the way he was called 'Green thing'.
-"He had fists to convince someone to do what he asked." - I would do what Vegeta asked anyways, but I would prefere he use his body! ^_~

I'm so glad someone decided to beat up Gohan! I was cheering Goten on all the way.
Gohan is such a dick!
And Trunks is a bit of an idiot, but a cute one at that, and I liked Vegeta's response to his outburst... - �If that�s what you like,�- hilarious! ^O^

Mmmm... I wonder what there gonna do when the get home??? ^_~

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From ANON - Getarian on April 06, 2004
Where do I begin? This chapter was wonderful, from the contented afterglow, loving stroking, the pillow talk, which generated a sense of soothing, confident release, to the, almost mellow, kiss, which nonetheless spoke of need, through to that scene, when they went in search of food:

"Just scraps of things as they stood in the late evening light. Him with nothing on and Kakarot with nothing off."

The ideaVegeVegeta completely naked, whilst Kakarot is still fully clothed, as they shared such intimate moments together, is extremely erotic. Really loved the imagery :-)

Loved the lemon. Paticularly loved these moments:

"Loved the restraint and hated it because any decent Saiyan would have had Vegeta on his hands and knees by now."

"Not when he couldn�t see Vegeta. He wanted to see his face, wanted to knhat hat he wasn�t hurting him. Didn�t want to fuck him like he was nothing, because Vegeta was something."

"...watched Vegeta stare at him like he was confused. Pushed into him, and the confusion changed, those dark eyes closed, head tipped back, his neck flushed and he was panting. Glowing. Burning."

I know that there was ald old of wonderful stuff between the first and the last two pieces, but I loved how the Saiyan-raised Prince believed that the decent Saiyan way to behave was to have him on all fours and get on with it, and yet when Goku had him in that very position, he moved him around to face him, needing to be sure that he enjoyed this shared moment, wiping away Vegeta's confusion with this deep show of respect for his mate, his Prince. A truly decent Saiyan. I loved this :-)

Enjoyed the after-sex moments and the bathroom scene. :-)

"�Hn,� was what Vegeta said, and then he started to eat."
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"Ah. Vegeta, a man of many words."

LOL!

Loved the 'morning breath' dialogue at the end of the fic :-D

"I like �Geta so I hate all those folks that are like �he�s bad, he�s evil� but at the same time I understand where they�re coming from. (And understand they are horrible hypocrites.)"

Hn, I agree that with Vegeta's past, I would be very wary of having him in my presence, so in that sense, I would understand such feelings from people such as Bulma, ChiChi, Goku and Gohan, but I totally agree with Mechanical Butterfly here, the others have their own shady pasts, and in Krillin's case an equally doubtful partner, yet they're immediately accepted into the gang without reservation...the only one to be uncertain was ChiChi (where Piccolo was concerned...and rightly so, one minute he's trying to kill Goku, the next, he's taken off into the wilderness with her 5yr old son).

I guess I don't understand the others attitude also, because Vegeta is Saiyan, their way of life was totally natural for him, he was not breaking any of their laws or moral codes when he went planet purging...and as much as I hate his whole planet purging days [ being human an' all :-) ] I actually respect him much more than those who broke their own world's codes with their past actions...particularly Yamcha and T..(l..(like MB, I totally dislike Tien)... and future conduct...Krillin and his obsession with the (at the time) 'hell bent on destroying' android 18.

For Vegeta to settle on Earth and ultimately respect their laws, whilst remaining as true to his Saiyan ways as possible, puts him head and shoulders above the disapproving ones, in my honest opinion :-)

"(Don�t let anyone else know this but:) I actually like Chichi in this fic..." "(Normally I dislike her with reservation. Should have known she had to be dead for me to like her.)"

LOL! She definitely drove me crazy with her screeching, frying pan yielding ways, and obsession with Gohan's studies. But I have read so many ChiChi bashing stories that it's gotten annoying and I like to see her presented in a good light for a change... btw, I have never considered anything you wrote as true ChiChi bashing, it was actually kind of funny...but then again I'm not a ChiChi fan :-D No, I'm talking about really serious bashing, I hate it when I come across that stuff, for any of the characters. I really like tay yay you present her memory in this one. :-)

"Ah. But I like humor."

Me too! and you do it so well :-)

"Yes! (shudder, but) I was watching GT and Goku (oi, why did he have to be a child?)"

Thank-you! Why? Oh why? Oh why? and don't get me started on Trunks' 'cool new look.'

"...Personally, I have always thought he was just play an idiot because it was what folks expected of him."

Although I do believe that he is naive in some ways, which is of course, totally removed from idiocy, it's possible that what you say is very true, it would make sense with the 'shifts' I have seen in his personality...and, I have noticed that he's never quite the 'idiot' when he's talking direct to Vegeta.

"So, anywho, the point was: (oh, lord I sound all snotty again) experience builds confidence."

LOL! I agree with this, but like you, it's going to require a moment of confidence to post that first fic when I finally finish whichever one first...hn, maybe a glass or two of red will do the trick in boosting that confidence :-)

I totally sympathise re: your nerves on your first posting, but believe me, I am very glad you finally did, you have nothing to be nervous over. You are a wonderful writer, so I am sure that your originals are great reading :-)

*blushes* I thank you for your kind words :-)

"(Actually, what I really want is for there to be fanfiction about it. Weirdo me.)"

LOGet Get your stuff published and there will be, even if I have to start it off myself :-)

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From ANON - Mechanical Butterfly on April 06, 2004
That was terrific!

Wonderful lemon...

Him with nothing on and Kakarot with nothing off.--I loved that...

to allow his whole being to be suspended on the ropes of Kakarot�s affection and know thatwoulwould not fall.---gosh, thats wonderful. I am so glad that Vegeta feels that way about Goku too! It makes me happy. ^.^ It makes me x-tra happy that Goku really does feel like that and he would never let Vegeta fall. This couple is the greatest!

and he wondered how far he could push the normally gentle one before he was shown just how Saiyan Kakarot could be. ---hehe I luved the outcome of this...very nice

Didn�t want to fuck him like he was nothing, because Vegeta was something. ---aww Goku is so wonderful I luved how he thought all of that and turned Vegeta around and Vegeta had a confused look..awww cute..

Gk: Morning breath.

Vegeta: This is a damn fanfic!---rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the wonderful chapter!
It was as always beatfiully described. You write both these character with such emotion and depth and I luv the pov changes it's great!
Sorry my review is somewhat short I am dead tired and I am off to bed after I hit the review button!

^.*
-MB-

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From ANON - jaygoose on April 05, 2004
That was loverly. I love Goku/Geta lemons. It doesn't matter how many I read, I always find them fascinating. He He. I maybe a Geta fan but I also apprieciate a well written Goku. He is the star you know. :)
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From ANON - kodachi on April 05, 2004
I�ve been with you for weeks now, impatiently waiting for the next chapter and loving each and every one of them... anyway, you have an amazing style and put so much emotion into your words and sentences it�s a real pleasure getting to read them. I think the way you write one can truly call it "art" in a sense... Of all your DBZ-fictions this is probably my favorite and I�d hate to see it end anytime soon... I praise everyone who inspired you to write and thicken the plot and I�m eternally gratefull to those that encouraged you to poste your stories in the first place... Love them!!! Love your style... it�s improving the more you write (IF there is anything to improve) and you are already on my personal list of my favorite DBZ-authors (meaning you�ve got a place in my book and that�s a honour in itsself since I�m really picky about it...) ^-^ Keep it up and keep going. *huggs you*
Greetings,

~kodachi~
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From ANON - Hecate18 on April 05, 2004
That was Hott!!! ^_~
And it was so sweet.
I liked the way you put a little realism in it 'morning breath' LOL ^-^ It's true just because it's a fanfic doesn't mean it can't be included.

And I liked Vegeta's reply at the end, he's extremely talkative isn't he! ^_^
You reviewed my story! Yay!!! I found it when I logged on, I was like 'hey I'm sure I didn't have that many reviews before' and I found your reviews, I was so happy *hugs*

Looking forward to the next chap! ^_^

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From ANON - Mechanical Butterfly on April 05, 2004
*sighs* I love it..such emotion...

�Why would I stop them?� Vegeta asked."--LoL hehe yeah that sounds like Geta...*shakes head* he knows why he should stop them, for Goku's sake not stupid Gohans...

"Silently prayed that Kakarot got in a few punches before he showed up and tried to split up a fight that he just wanted to egg on."--LoL thats so funneeeee. I silently prayed that too. stupid Gohan!!!

�Vegeta!� the bald one said (as if he needed to let everyone know the Prince�s name.)--Krillen, bleh!...but have you ever noticed that he always finds a way to say Vegeta's name on DBZ no matter what is happeneing....

�Get out of here,� Piccolo said, �We don�t want you around us.�--WHAT!!! UGH! I am seriously dissapointed in Piccolo...I really can't believe him. Out of everyone on that lookout he should identify w/ Vegeta the most.

�I don�t have to ask him,� Kakarot said�he was almost growling out the words��Because I trust him.�---aww of course he trusts Vegeta...who wouldn't? Oh wait...lemme guess everyone on the lookout!

This coming from she who tossed in a plot twist?--hehe oh yeah, I did do that...didn't I?

I loved this chapter and I feel really bad for Bulma, but she seems to be holding her ground fairly well. Although it's all still upsetting, it just seems like one big mess, and I hope Goku and Geta can be happy together...err...*reads end of last chapter* well it seems as if they are already very happy ^.^ So scratch that.

Your fic brings up a good point that my brothers and I have always argued about and still do. The fact that sometimes on DBZ ppl never trust Vegeta even though he has fought alongside them for years but yet Krillen marries 18 and no one cares. No one ever distrusts her, then Piccolo no one ever second guesses him (but Piccolo seems to always understand Vegeta, thats why I like that green bean, not to mention he said Vegeta is the greatest tactician/strategist and noone can ever tell if he is bluffing or not)...and Yamcha the former desert bandit...and Tien the stupid 3 eyed pervert, I just always hated Tien. For the simple fact that he was always rude to Vegeta for what Nappa did to him. Oh get over it 3 eyes! But anyway I just think Vegeta deserves a liitle more trust than he gets...Me luvs my Geta!

Anyway I can't wait for the update tomorrow.
Thanks for another drama filled lemon yummed exciting chapter!

^.*
-MB-
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