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May 19, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Mindblowing! I just read chapter 32. There\'s so much I have to acknowledge, yet I feel overwhelmed to even try to do so. It is so amazing that Vegeta\'s body has been taken to be used by the devil, how the devil has watched over Goku all of these years, and now, how Goku\'s sins have enabled him to be taken to hell if he should die... I\'m just overwhelmed. Camaro my dear, you know how to pack a punch!
And the scenes with Bulma a few chapters back, even though raw and full of misery and abandon were soo erotic, when he was talking to her as he took her the second time.. MY.
Riveting.
Jana
And the scenes with Bulma a few chapters back, even though raw and full of misery and abandon were soo erotic, when he was talking to her as he took her the second time.. MY.
Riveting.
Jana
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May 6, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I decided to read this whole story over again to gain the entire experience and what an experience it was. I mean that in a good way, i\'m so happy to find a story that is realistic and about emotions, truth, life AND RELIGION. Nobody includes religion in their writing because most people are afaird to offend but your not and thats exactly what i love! Other writers don\'t want to touch on religion because they know readers will be offended because people become afarid when someone says something against what they\'ve been taught their whole life. But religion is such a cause for love and hate and war and peace in the world that you think it would be a main theme in most stories.
I have also seen that you have been flamed for the sex in your story. One flamer said something to do with sex and religion in the same story...well...um...sex is creation and most religions include a reason for creation...so they kind of work together. I\'m glad this story evokes a reaction for these morons because maybe after they\'ve realises how wrong they actually are they won\'t plague the world with their narrow minded opinions.
Keep doing what your doing Camaro and just know you have my support! (Not that you probably need it o_-)
I have also seen that you have been flamed for the sex in your story. One flamer said something to do with sex and religion in the same story...well...um...sex is creation and most religions include a reason for creation...so they kind of work together. I\'m glad this story evokes a reaction for these morons because maybe after they\'ve realises how wrong they actually are they won\'t plague the world with their narrow minded opinions.
Keep doing what your doing Camaro and just know you have my support! (Not that you probably need it o_-)
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May 5, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Ok, read chapter 24. Wow. This is gettting to be soooooo deliciously complex. The whole history behind the \"kiss of hell\" is just fantastic. And I\'m beginning to wonder just who IS the monster of this tale... Goku? Vegeta? Gohan???
And thank you for answering the question: What ever happened to Icarus?
I love the abandon that Goku is just giving in to. Really, with the madness in the world so prevalent, with a hero unable to do anything about it, what else could he do? But lose his mind...
The most disturbing chapter would be 23 for me. As I kept reading your words that they had sex on the corpses I kept changing it in my mind, because my mind just couldn\'t deal with that fact. It was sort of funny. I had to tell myself, \"Stop. She really means this. This is taking place in the story!\" And then my poor little mind would just say, \"Nah, this isn\'t really happening.\" As my mind would dance over the words. It was kind of funny to recognize this in myself, this inability to accept that Goku would do that only because it is just soooooo damn hard to accept.... I just love how this fic has the reader constantly questioning themselves.. well, I\'m guessing that others are, since I am.
This gets better and better and oh, almost forgot. Poor Krillen. :( That had to be the most tragic thing and Goku just going on in, what, less than 5 minutes... shows how corrupt his heart is becoming. He sees it, and is helpless to do anything about it.
Thank you Camaro. :)
Jana (dharmaserenity)
And thank you for answering the question: What ever happened to Icarus?
I love the abandon that Goku is just giving in to. Really, with the madness in the world so prevalent, with a hero unable to do anything about it, what else could he do? But lose his mind...
The most disturbing chapter would be 23 for me. As I kept reading your words that they had sex on the corpses I kept changing it in my mind, because my mind just couldn\'t deal with that fact. It was sort of funny. I had to tell myself, \"Stop. She really means this. This is taking place in the story!\" And then my poor little mind would just say, \"Nah, this isn\'t really happening.\" As my mind would dance over the words. It was kind of funny to recognize this in myself, this inability to accept that Goku would do that only because it is just soooooo damn hard to accept.... I just love how this fic has the reader constantly questioning themselves.. well, I\'m guessing that others are, since I am.
This gets better and better and oh, almost forgot. Poor Krillen. :( That had to be the most tragic thing and Goku just going on in, what, less than 5 minutes... shows how corrupt his heart is becoming. He sees it, and is helpless to do anything about it.
Thank you Camaro. :)
Jana (dharmaserenity)
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May 5, 2005 at 12:00 AM
lol... It\'s the classic \"The Bad guy needs to gloat,\" moment. And Goku is playing him like a harp.
I found this rather interesting:
I don’t even imagine the child had done a thing, receiving repeated blows from his perfectionist of a father. Now up until this time, I had always allowed the captive to remain in the body of what I possessed, my own purpose only in the mind as I controlled them. But as I saw the inhumanity with which the father tortured the boy, I suddenly wanted to possess the beaten creature wholly and entirely. I didn’t want to be inside him. I wanted to BE him.
Why would the Devil want to be the beaten child when he could be the father? I have a sneaking suspicion somewhere along the way, Satan had a consious and on some level he is sympothising with that boy. \"My Father is a Perfectionist too, and punished me for no obvious reason.\"
Don\'t get me wrong. I have no appreciation for child abuse at all. I think the abuser should have their hands cut of and their eyes gouged out... (hmmm, seems as though that has already happened in this story, numerous times.)
I found this rather interesting:
I don’t even imagine the child had done a thing, receiving repeated blows from his perfectionist of a father. Now up until this time, I had always allowed the captive to remain in the body of what I possessed, my own purpose only in the mind as I controlled them. But as I saw the inhumanity with which the father tortured the boy, I suddenly wanted to possess the beaten creature wholly and entirely. I didn’t want to be inside him. I wanted to BE him.
Why would the Devil want to be the beaten child when he could be the father? I have a sneaking suspicion somewhere along the way, Satan had a consious and on some level he is sympothising with that boy. \"My Father is a Perfectionist too, and punished me for no obvious reason.\"
Don\'t get me wrong. I have no appreciation for child abuse at all. I think the abuser should have their hands cut of and their eyes gouged out... (hmmm, seems as though that has already happened in this story, numerous times.)
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May 5, 2005 at 12:00 AM
lol... It\'s the classic \"The Bad guy needs to gloat,\" moment. And Goku is playing him like a harp.
I found this rather interesting:
I don’t even imagine the child had done a thing, receiving repeated blows from his perfectionist of a father. Now up until this time, I had always allowed the captive to remain in the body of what I possessed, my own purpose only in the mind as I controlled them. But as I saw the inhumanity with which the father tortured the boy, I suddenly wanted to possess the beaten creature wholly and entirely. I didn’t want to be inside him. I wanted to BE him.
Why would the Devil want to be the beaten child when he could be the father? I have a sneaking suspicion somewhere along the way, Satan had a consious and on some level he is sympothising with that boy. \"My Father is a Perfectionist too, and punished me for no obvious reason.\"
Don\'t get me wrong. I have no appreciation for child abuse at all. I think the abuser should have their hands cut of and their eyes gouged out... (hmmm, seems as though that has already happened in this story, numerous times.)
I found this rather interesting:
I don’t even imagine the child had done a thing, receiving repeated blows from his perfectionist of a father. Now up until this time, I had always allowed the captive to remain in the body of what I possessed, my own purpose only in the mind as I controlled them. But as I saw the inhumanity with which the father tortured the boy, I suddenly wanted to possess the beaten creature wholly and entirely. I didn’t want to be inside him. I wanted to BE him.
Why would the Devil want to be the beaten child when he could be the father? I have a sneaking suspicion somewhere along the way, Satan had a consious and on some level he is sympothising with that boy. \"My Father is a Perfectionist too, and punished me for no obvious reason.\"
Don\'t get me wrong. I have no appreciation for child abuse at all. I think the abuser should have their hands cut of and their eyes gouged out... (hmmm, seems as though that has already happened in this story, numerous times.)
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May 5, 2005 at 12:00 AM
And I hit the tab button at the wrong time... *sighs*
Back to the review....
Of course Satan would take over the body, but he would still only know what he has known his entire time of being... and he did exactly that even in another body when he had a sort of chance to \'start over\'. I don\'t think it was a mistake Satan saw that little boy. I don\'t think it was even a mistake that the little boy hit his head so hard.
Another bit of interest:
The more you hated, the more you discriminated, the more popular you could become with those who agreed with you. Seems familiar, doesn\'t it?
*Shakes head* The purity that held so much appeal to him, he wanted to rot so he could take Goku to hell with him? Doesn\'t seem very logical, does it? After all, if Satan was able to turn Goku\'s heart, then what would be there to stop Goku from becoming determined to be more evil and powerful? Can\'t have the cake and eat it to. Or is Satan aware of this, and just really interested in the challange? Once broken, he\'d tire of Goku and toss him aside also.
O.O I had no idea Vegeta had been possessed so early on in the time line of the show. So... basically anything anyone has ever truely known about Vegeta in this time line would really be Satan? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
lol... I WON.... like it\'s some sort of contest. Silly Satan. You may have been able to convence most people that what you wanted, they wanted, but now you\'ve found your match. hehe
Curious, Satan still believes Goku\'s heart to be pure. Well isn\'t that a knot. If it is still pure, there is no way Satan can make him go.
Damn it. I have to go to work. I\'ll finish this chapter later.
Back to the review....
Of course Satan would take over the body, but he would still only know what he has known his entire time of being... and he did exactly that even in another body when he had a sort of chance to \'start over\'. I don\'t think it was a mistake Satan saw that little boy. I don\'t think it was even a mistake that the little boy hit his head so hard.
Another bit of interest:
The more you hated, the more you discriminated, the more popular you could become with those who agreed with you. Seems familiar, doesn\'t it?
*Shakes head* The purity that held so much appeal to him, he wanted to rot so he could take Goku to hell with him? Doesn\'t seem very logical, does it? After all, if Satan was able to turn Goku\'s heart, then what would be there to stop Goku from becoming determined to be more evil and powerful? Can\'t have the cake and eat it to. Or is Satan aware of this, and just really interested in the challange? Once broken, he\'d tire of Goku and toss him aside also.
O.O I had no idea Vegeta had been possessed so early on in the time line of the show. So... basically anything anyone has ever truely known about Vegeta in this time line would really be Satan? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
lol... I WON.... like it\'s some sort of contest. Silly Satan. You may have been able to convence most people that what you wanted, they wanted, but now you\'ve found your match. hehe
Curious, Satan still believes Goku\'s heart to be pure. Well isn\'t that a knot. If it is still pure, there is no way Satan can make him go.
Damn it. I have to go to work. I\'ll finish this chapter later.
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May 5, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I did have a little bit of trouble with Goku saying that God making Satan was a mistake. I would have to agree with the Devil on that one. God made him for a reason, we just don\'t know what it is yet.
O.O MWuahahahahhahaha, Is it true? Did Goku really want Vegeta the first time he laid eyes on the other sayian? *dreamy sigh* What a lovely triangle Goku/Vegeta/Bulma would have made.
Instead, that stupid fuck up called Frieza had to go and kill Vegeta and gave the Devil his chance. -_- I bet the Devil had that one planned out all along. SFF SFD
Hmmmm, so interesting. We\'ve heard all the stories about the infamous people of earth... would be interesting to see if the Devil clammed things for other tyrants of the universe.
O.O MWuahahahahhahaha, Is it true? Did Goku really want Vegeta the first time he laid eyes on the other sayian? *dreamy sigh* What a lovely triangle Goku/Vegeta/Bulma would have made.
Instead, that stupid fuck up called Frieza had to go and kill Vegeta and gave the Devil his chance. -_- I bet the Devil had that one planned out all along. SFF SFD
Hmmmm, so interesting. We\'ve heard all the stories about the infamous people of earth... would be interesting to see if the Devil clammed things for other tyrants of the universe.
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May 4, 2005 at 12:00 AM
HEY, *I* do TOO read this. Although my hang-out is mm.org and I missed 33 and 33.5 somehow (do you still post there? I like the place--there are pansies and posies there but I like to run my hands through them looking for pennies from heaven and whatnot).
I just read the lopped off breast thing. It was beautiful. I could see it, it was that cinematic and vivid, although for some reason I was numb to the terror. Chapter 34 was more terrifying somehow--and then I saw less cinematic stuff and *heard* more *theatrical* stuff. The monologues were very Greek Tragedy and grand. And scary.
This piece probably has better writing than Fathoming Love (because it goes into so many more scenes and more quickly and tackles ideas as well as images) but I\'m more moved by the FL story. If this one is theatre, then that one\'s a poem, with more intimate drama.
Sorry to be to literary. I get that way sometimes. Too much college can do that to a person. Make her stopping talking in normal language.
Love you.
I just read the lopped off breast thing. It was beautiful. I could see it, it was that cinematic and vivid, although for some reason I was numb to the terror. Chapter 34 was more terrifying somehow--and then I saw less cinematic stuff and *heard* more *theatrical* stuff. The monologues were very Greek Tragedy and grand. And scary.
This piece probably has better writing than Fathoming Love (because it goes into so many more scenes and more quickly and tackles ideas as well as images) but I\'m more moved by the FL story. If this one is theatre, then that one\'s a poem, with more intimate drama.
Sorry to be to literary. I get that way sometimes. Too much college can do that to a person. Make her stopping talking in normal language.
Love you.
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May 4, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Once again you have done it. Taken my world and turned it on it\'s ear. *shivers* Gods, this story is such a masterfull work. I wish I was batter at reviews so I could expline how much it effects me. It shakes me right down to my toes. The fight between good and choas, the show that even the most pure can be tempted. What is right? what is wrong? The lines are burled. Thank you.
~Kethry~
~Kethry~
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May 4, 2005 at 12:00 AM
*clears throat*
My dearest love Camaro,
In my wayward travels in this desolate land of false fantasies and desperate desires, I have found myself completely enraptured by the tale you have woven here. Yes, truly Fate itself must have blessed such a creation, your skills are masterful in every sense of the word and I feel as if I am graced simply by reading something done with your divine hands.
The labor you in which you made this is obvious, it almost too much to comprehend!
Every intricate detail in ‘Monster’ is exquisitely done with such perfection that it nearly rivals your own beauty….
Fuck…my mom just walked in an’ I have a doc’s appointment, I’ll finish kissin’ your ass later.
Good times and rock on,
Dominic Shade
My dearest love Camaro,
In my wayward travels in this desolate land of false fantasies and desperate desires, I have found myself completely enraptured by the tale you have woven here. Yes, truly Fate itself must have blessed such a creation, your skills are masterful in every sense of the word and I feel as if I am graced simply by reading something done with your divine hands.
The labor you in which you made this is obvious, it almost too much to comprehend!
Every intricate detail in ‘Monster’ is exquisitely done with such perfection that it nearly rivals your own beauty….
Fuck…my mom just walked in an’ I have a doc’s appointment, I’ll finish kissin’ your ass later.
Good times and rock on,
Dominic Shade